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Posted: 17 August 2007 09:50 PM   [ Ignore ]
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EVery citizen in Bhutan live in fear of arrest and torture every day. No one has any courage to speak of against government. Even the people who write articles in this forum know about the wickedness of the government but they are afraid to speak our against. Judiciary system of Bhutan functions under the direct command of King, which has been never known to declare any government action unlawful. Provision for defense attorneys, lawyers, solicitors and jury trial are non-existent. All the Bhutanese citizens, including National Assembly members lose their nationality or face capital punishment if they criticize the King and his government. The King and his government are above law and supreme in the legal system.
Even viewing of television was prohibited until 1999. There is no newspaper except one weekly bulletin owned by the government and the transparency on the government action is non-existent. All media are used for only campaigning the government propaganda. They publish and broadcast only what the government wants the people to read, hear and know.

There is no official guarantee for the protection of citizens’ human rights. The Bhutanese people are not secure and do not enjoy even the basic human rights.

Driglam Namza
Driglam Namza, an ancient code of social etiquette of the western Bhutanese which dictates how to eat, how to sit, how to talk, how to dress or how to bow before the authority, and what hair style to adopt, was made mandatory to all the Bhutanese despite their cultural diversity. Through the village headmen, Driglam Namza was imposed on the masses. Any failure to observe the code was punishable by a week imprisonment or a fine.

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Posted: 18 August 2007 04:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Wai Brokpa, what bull shit are you talking about? looks like you are still living in the stone age. what human right are you talking about? wake up, its now 21st century and we Bhutanese are living with time. Bhutan with the generosity of our beloved monarch has abolished the capital punishment long time ago. Had it not been abolished, traitors like you people would not have been survived to make false allegation. Lucky, another Tinenmein square will not take place in Bhutan. We have all the freedom that we need and what more freedom do you want.
Our king has been named as one of the leader who made changes in the world by the times magazine in 2005. Do you think the committee who choose him are foolish.Our concept of gross national happiness are now being praised and accepted by many nation, including The Great Britian. So what truth you have got in making all these allegation. People of Bhutan, does not want democracy, because we love our monarch so much, but it is the monarch that is taking us into democracy.
We have our own reason for slow and gradual introduction of television in Bhutan, because we donnot want a HARI RAMA HARI KRISHNA type of culture taking place in Bhutan. We donnot need people like you to transform into democracy, we donnot need bloodshed like Maoist deed in yours to get democracy.
So Brokpa, stop making false allegation, It only encourages our government to make you stay in your filthy camps in Nepal. You must be enjoying full human rights there, so enjoy.
Regarding the Driglam Namzha, follow the simple adage- “Be like roman when you are in Rome”. We still have lots of southern Bhutanese living in Bhutan with equal status, because they have a different mental status from crook like you. You people were given the best, fertile lands, schools came up in south way ahead before it started in north, road communication and infact all developmental activities were taking place more in south then north. But things are not enough for you, and you turned out to be the people who shat in the plate that fed you. In the school, I used to have a friend, who wouldnot talk about anything except praise about “ hamro Subhash Ghising ley esto garcho” etc.  You people really deserve what you are now.

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Posted: 19 August 2007 10:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Malika wrote: (Wai Brokpa, what bull shit are you talking about? looks like you are still living in the stone age.
what human right are you talking about? )wake up, its now 21st century and we Bhutanese are living with time.

Dear Malika I am living in stone age thats why I don’t much about Bhutan’s human rights voilation. If I was living in 21st century I would have found and wrote more points than what I have written. That shows how much RGOB is voilating the rights of its citizen. Imagine even the person in stone age knows the suffering under RGOB.

Malika wrote: (Our king has been named as one of the leader who made changes in the world by the times magazine in 2005. Do you think the committee who choose him are foolish.)
Bhutan has two faces to show. One to show to the outside world how kind and generous the government is and another cruel inhuman face to show to its citizens. World kknows BHutan only through media. Who controls media??? Malika can you tell me who controls media? Media in Bhutan knows only how to sing monarch song. Yes! people who choose King by time magazine were not foolish but were fooled by chamchas like you who pretend to be great nations.

Malika wrote:(People of Bhutan, does not want democracy, because we love our monarch so much, but it is the monarch that is taking us into democracy.)
You don’t like democracy but don’t say we. You love your monarch but don’t say we. You cannot speak on behalf of all citizens of Bhutan. YOu may be one of those chamchas that play like puppet in his hand. So we want democracy as citizens of Bhutan. Don’t think Bhutan is only your country. We as citizen have right to speak coz we too are paying taxes.

Don’t talk southern and northern Bhutanese. I am not addressing communal problem. I am talking about the whole nation BHutan. Don’t assume that everyone that write against RGOB are from Nepal camp or is southern Bhutanese. There are many many unsatisfied, suppressed northerners by RGOB who could not open mouth. Time will come when they won’t be quite anymore.

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Posted: 23 August 2007 07:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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you have same access to this site as all of us and we are posting at same website. we love our king so what you mean we are puppet. we prefer to be called puppet of great king because that would be a honor. you are puppet of uselessness, you have nothing good to say of bhuutan because you are not happy with bhutan as it is. you want bhutan as state of nepal.
moderator, i will kill you if you dont stop this ... from saying things against our king.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay these people make me angry very much

[edited by moderator - cool it laloo we will take care of this kind of problem. please mind your language]

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Posted: 23 August 2007 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Hi Laloo cool down. Bhutan is corrupted coz of people like you who speaks things without reason. Its good that you don’t get chance to speak in national assembly, otherwise you will be a laughing puppet. Why are you so angry when I express my views. If you can prove me wrong I wellcome your idea.

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Posted: 24 August 2007 08:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Dear Brokpa,

Lets not forget that our 4th King wanted to bring all ethnics of Bhutan together with his forsighted vision of “One Nation, One people”. He wanted all the Bhutanese, eastern, western, central and southern to come together as one. Prior to 1990, then I was a student and my friends were from all parts of Bhutan and of all ethincs. Some of my best friends are Lhotsapas. We had no qualms of where we are from or to what areligion we belong or to what ethnicity we were from. We were one. The trouble started from 1990 when Southerners became richer, educated and properous. Then they wanted to extend their propserity with their long lost relatives and friend living in Nepal and across the border in India. At the same time, there was these great idea of Greater Nepal floating in the region. This has gone to head of some of the leaders of the south and all these troubl started.

There are still many bhutanese, Nepali ethinic still living and doing very well in Bhutan. We are getting to be one again. So please Brokpa, don’t spoil it. And don’t misinterpret one nation one people to mean anything other than the original intention.

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Posted: 26 August 2007 06:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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"ONE NATION ONE PEOPLE” is one of the best slogan, where in the world there are so many ethnic and racial discrimations. Millions of lives have been destroyed coz of ethnicity problem. There is no nation in the world where only one ethnicity lives. Every country in the world has divers ethnicity. “ONE NATION ONE PEOPLE” policy is the best in theory. But in Bhutan it seem seldom practiced. Its my heart’s desire that there will be no difference between north and south or east. Bhutan is so small to be divided ethnically. We cannot afford to be divided. There is saying “if there is outside problem in the house that will strengthen the unity of in family, but if there is problem within the house it will divide.

Southerns have wronged, and created a mess in Bhutan. I totally agree. I strongly condemn the burning of gho & kira and rising up agaisnt government. But I also condemn the acts of government who added fuel to the fire by not handling the situation properly. If there was one nation one people why there is so much difference between them? Why RGOB is still punishing the grandchildren of the same household whose uncle or aunty have participated in fear in the 1990s demonstration?

My concern is Moaist!!!! I am dead against with this group. Now we should not allow by anymeans to come these in our country. But if RGOB acts like they are acting now and treating southerners, it will add fuel to fire. Moast have a tactics to attract people. Their idealogy is lie and empty promise. They will do anything to motivate people. How is RGOB going to overcome this tactics? Eg. if the southerners are treated the way they are treated now, those people will have no options. They want to die but want to kill and die. We cannot come against those who wants to die unless if you want to die.

I would say Bhutan is facing one of the greatest enemy of the history which govt have to deal wisely not like babbling in National Assembly.

I like your idea Pawo. We are all one people but lets work as one people. Lets treat all people equal. Let not one people one nation slogan be destroyed by discrimanating one another. I know that its hard to keep everyone happy, but lets do our best.

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Posted: 28 August 2007 05:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Brokpa, you have made many strong allegations against our kingdom and our king. As owner of this site and as loyal citizen of country, I must warn you not to overdo it. We are a new site and we still do not have clear policy for posting on forum but if you continue like this I will have to take action.

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Posted: 29 August 2007 07:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Brokpa saab....first thing first...what do u mean by saying Human Rights in Bhutan???? isnt the freedom you are exercising right now not good enough for you.....when you say Human Rights...does that mean you can put false allegations against our country(i dont think you r bhutanese, even if you are you should call urself bhutanese) and our beloved King...do you want our country to be like Nepal....where you can publish whatever you feel whether its the fact or not.....

Most of the people (including yourself) feel that, from next year you can do and say whatever you want about our King and our Country....i dont think democracy means that....when the power is handed over to the people, that does not mean that we dont have to look up to what our ancestor have done for this country....it is because of our unique culture and tradition that kept us independent....if not for that we would have either been under CHina or India who knows British also....

be it 21st or 19th century, 28th century we have to respect our culture and tradition which includes Driglam Namzha.....in Bhutan it is known as Driglam Namzha, other countries have own tradition too u know....why do you think westerners eat with spoon and fork, sit on a dinning table and pray before they eat...these too are Driglam Namzha.....otherwise all walks of life can sleep and eat like dogs…

you must have studied here atleast a year or 2....for your kind information that is free education....u must have visited the hospital once or twice...that too is free....so when you are enjoying all the freedom and still you MORON complain bout our King and Country...when all the foreigners are praising about our King and Country, Rotten apples like you try complaining mo.....i cannot understand....when you get everything you still want more that is know as Za-Ngop..... 

Brokpa can u explain the term basic Human Rights?????

you were saying that you pay taxes and you also have your rights....what about the free education and medicines you are getting..i dont feel there is discrimination in our country....every bhutanese citizens have the right to take equal in eevrything..let it be lhotshoms, sharschops or ngalops....

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Posted: 30 August 2007 11:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I agree Pretender that in western countries they eat with spoon and fork, pray before eating, use dining table etc. But that I haven’t seen those countries forcing the citizens to do the same. They have freedom to eat however they want. Driglam Namza dictates on one’s personal life suppressing the right of human being. Do think that you are the only citizen of Bhutan and few people in the post are the only to rule the country. Listen to the cry of general public how they are feeling about Driglam Namza. Future of Bhutan cannot be decided by a handful of power hungry people in Thimphu.

Its my right to recive education and medical assistant, but that doesn’t meant that I have to be suppressed.

Brokpa can u explain the term basic Human Rights?????
Answer:  Human Rights???? Pretender you have lived all your life in small pond and you think that’s all the world. If you don’t know what is basic human right I will write you separately coz its limited here in forum. Just a example. CAN ANYONE SPEAK AGAINST KING??? NO. Why? Coz there is no freedom of expression. Simple answer. There countless acts of RGOB’s human right violation. You want me to publish all of them here in Forum?? I can. 

You don’t feel there is a discrimination in Bhutan but only those who have suffered in the hand of dictatorship knows the real wounds. If there is no discrimination why southerners have to produce NOC and northerners don’t??
You want a list of discrimination? I have pages of discrimination.

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Posted: 31 August 2007 05:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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wai brokpa.....why are you hiding yourself and posting stuffs like this....why dont you just come out in the open and say all these stuffs.....Dictatorships and all those stuffs...if you feel that, you have to say it in public...regarding NOCs...what do you mean when you say only southerners have to show the NOC’s if you are going for further studies or training and so on...everyone has to show their NOC’s.....let it be Lhotshompa’s or Ngalops, everyone has to get their NOC’s....when you say all these stuffs do u feel that you are brave...i think you are f*#@ed up coward trying to mock our King....do u have a list of the good deeds our King did for his Country.....where in the world did you hear about a King leading his army to battle????? everyone makes mistakes.....our king is near to GOD but not GOD....so he too will make mistake....I THINK GOD MADE A MISTAKE....HE CREATED YOU IN BHUTAN....YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN SOME OTHER COUNTRIES BUT BHUTAN.....

Its my right to recive education and medical assistant, but that doesn’t meant that I have to be suppressed.

who gave you the right????if not the KING...........you think President Bush gave you the right to study freely in Bhutan????

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Posted: 31 August 2007 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Do you think that Bhutan belongs to you alone?? Not so. As a citizen of Bhutan everyone has a right to be treated equally. when there is a absence of fairness and equality than the problem comes. HI Pretender why do you think that there has been uprising in 90s??? Why do you think that there has been uprising even in the east? How can you prove that Bhutan is treating its citizens equally? There was such a big issue in Bhutantimes when Danida sponsored few students from south who could not produce NOC. You corrupted people accused DAnida for breaking the law of the country. Poor students. Their grandfather or distance uncle might have gone to demonstration coz of the fear from those so called democratic party people and now grandchildren are suffering coz they cannot produce NOC.

Why are you asking me to come openly and say all these rights? If I come RGOB will killed me. That is the voilation of human right and suppression of citizens.
Why are you again talking about President Bush? From where his name came up here? BHUTAN IS SPOILED coz of people like you who thinks only one way. You people never thinks what is the heart’s cry of general public. Go and ask ten people in the street if they like gho Kira rule or not. I won’t be surprise to fine all ten people saying that they don’t like to be forced.
Respect and honor should come out of the heart as gratitude but not by force. Driglam Namza is forcefull law that dictates people what to wear and what to do. Every human is equal. No one is born as supernatural. Every Human being should have right to live a life she/he wants to live.

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Posted: 01 September 2007 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I have been reading some of the posts here and frankly it makes me really sick. Talk about “biting the hand that feeds” and we have a classic example here. Well if some of the people here think that Bhutan is such a bad place then I suggest them to get the f#*k out. Or maybe they are not even in Bhutan. A disgruntled looser trying to call Bhutan by bad names. People talk about human rights but they forget to look at Bhutan’s right. Bhutan has the right to defend itself from terrorist. Bhutan has the right to make her own decisions and most of all Bhutan had the right to defend itself from sick freaks that are bent on destroying what the country stands for. Just so that everybody here knows, Bhutan will never fall to threats from sick terrorists. If they think that they could bully Bhutan into making it a country like Nepal then I suggest they think again because Bhutan will never yield and will fight if we have to. Do not provoke the sleeping dragon.

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Posted: 01 September 2007 01:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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You are out of our topic and writing some imagination. I am agianst terrorist. I too will fight terrorism and would do anything to save our nation. You people always think that its only southerners who are talking against Bhutan and all of you have only one way traffic. You have no respect for second person’s opinion and thoughts. Bhutan will be worst if we have people like you, who thinks only one way.
Lets talk realistically. There are two kinds of criticism. One destructive and another constructive. Ignore the destructive and think on constructive. Fools despice the instruction. You guys are all in one way.

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Posted: 02 September 2007 12:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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y ye fighting among urself?? fight ur common enemy who wants to destroy our nation. Btn is 2 small 2 b divided within.

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Posted: 03 September 2007 02:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Dear Brokpa,

You are such a loser. No country has a perfect Human Rights Record. We have more rights that the people in ‘democratic’ world enjoys. Who said life was easy? If we go to Nepal and try to do what the Neps have tried to do in our country, I am sure that they would have murdered us and that would be the end of that. The RGOB took actions when the Neps thought that they could burn our flag, ridicule our dress, put pictures of the Nepal’s king and queen in their sitting rom and use the pictures of our king as kitchen or bathroom papers, rape our women, look down on our language and behead our dungpas and parade people naked in town for wearing the traditional gho and kira-WE HAVE THE DAMN RIGHT TO REACT.

BROKPA YOU ARE A LOSER AND ALWAYS WILL BE. IF YOU ARE A NEP, PLEASE GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND GO BACK TO NEPAL. IF YOU NEED DIRECTION THEN FOLLOW THE ILLEGAL TRAIL THAT YOU USED TO GET IN MY COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

ENJOYYYY LIFE AND GET THAT FINGER OUT OF YOUR BUTT!!!!

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