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Health Secretary’s unqualified daughter doing MBBS in Germany!! 
Posted: 06 July 2007 07:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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And the irony of life is that, our students who did very well in class 12 and go for scholarships are bound by the terms and conditions of their undertaking at the RCSC or at the Department of Adult and Higher Education. The first clause of this undertaking reads,” if a candidate do not return to Bhutan after their studies, or is not willing to work in RGOB, or he/she drops the course before completion without any medical problems, he/she must pay back twice the amount of the cost borne by the RGOB or the donor agencies in the name of RGOB for their scholarship”. Means what?. It means if a student defies these rules, he/she will have to pay back twice!! The second clause of this undertaking reads, “ on return from the scholarship, he/she must work in the government for twice the number of years spent during the scholarship”. Means what?. It means if he/she did an engineering course for 4 years will have to work for 8 years, if he/she did an MBBS course for 6 years will have to work for 12 years. However, there are many other schoarships like this one of the daughter of the secretary which do not have any undertakings with our RGOB. They have excused saying that these scholarships are “ad hoc” scholarships, or “not established scholarships”, or “private” scholarships etc and etc. Means what?. It means there are quite a number of students who actually study under the RGOB scholarships abroad ( which is not obvious) and later on when they complete their studies, they do not have any obligations to return home to work twice the number of years spent during their studies and to pay double the cost incurred by our government. So, these guys can easily stay back in that country, work there, make dollars, be rich and make a life for themselves whereas their friends who got the scholarships legally are bound to return back to serve the country, or else face the penalty to pay back twice the cost. Where is the rational? Is this fair?.

Lungta said the beauty lies in the fact that one Bhutanese is educated no matter how. I want to tell him to please check on his own morality as a human being. Gandhi said, “there are two ways to do things in life: the easy way and the right way”.  And I believe that latter is more important than the first. It’s better to do the right way whether it is difficult or easy, than to resort to easy but wrong means. We should teach our kids the right means to right ends. Let the watchwords of all our people be the old familiar watchwords of honesty, decency, fair-dealing, and commonsense. We must treat each man on his worth and merits as a man. We must see that each is given a square deal, because he is entitled to no more and should receive no less. The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us and vice versa. This country will not be a permanently good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a reasonably good place for all of us to live in.

Palden Drukpa Lha Gyal Lo!!!

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Posted: 06 July 2007 07:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Khashitsawa Wrote:

“Oh my country, is this what we have now become...a nation filled with people spitting hatred, despising others for what one was not able to achieve...”

Khashitsawa, raising concern and pointing out corrupt practices is not necessarily spitting hatred. Your statement would be true only if someone made up a story purely to cause disrepute to the other person. In this particular case, there is no other way than getting personal. Corruption always involves the act of people and not animals, stones or trees. If the act of people are involved in corruption, how can one point out corruption without naming these people? Tell us wise Khashitsawa! If we have more people with your kind of attitude, our country will have more people spitting all kinds of hatred and venom at each other, because it is people like you who fosters and patronize corrupt people. If you are a sympathizer of corrupt people, the truth that you are also one of the corrupt people can’t be very far.

Second, there is a difference between what others ‘don’t achieve’ and what they have been ‘bereft’ of. In this case, Ap Wangdrugay is not attributing his failure to Health Secretary’s daughter. He is merely using Health Secretary’s daughter as an example where our system don’t necessarily go by the book. When someone is chosen for scholarship, everybody has to go by the same parameter and set of criteria, but if these parameters and criteria are applied only to selected few and not to others, isn’t this grossly unfair? I don’t think Ap Wangdrugay has any personal grudge against the health Secretary or his daughter, he has not alternatives, but to use their case as a medium to point out corrupt practices in our system. Remember Buddha’s teaching: When you point your finger at the moon, the finger is not the moon.

Khashitsawa Wrote:
“If Wangdrujey and Doctor are so concerned about the issue, and if you really believe that the Health Secretary’s daughter is in Germany after manipulating the system, than why don’t you make a formal submission to the relevant authorities?”

Who are you to tell them where to submit or who to submit the report. I don’t think they need your permission to write in this forum. When you say to ‘relevant’ authorities, which relevant authorities do you mean. Let me be with you for a moment and assume that they really don’t know where to submit the report, now can you tell them where to submit the report. When the system itself is corrupt, what more do you expect from lodging a complaint to the very system? May be, you derive some kind of sadistic pleasure by putting people in dismay and trouble. I now know why you ‘despise’ others.

You say: “I made my own enquiries and I believe it is not as horrendous as you all make it out to be”, and down the line, you say, you not a health secretary.

Let me ask you: If you are not the Health Secretary or one of his relatives, what business is it of yours to make ‘inquiries’ and come up with defensive post. Are you hired by him to write in his defence here.

You say: “..I am told it was more an ad hoc offer and not an established scholarship...”.

Who told you this. I got a feeling that this is nothing more than an abstract conclusion of your private inquiry! Besides, how strange that such ‘ad hoc’ offers always goes to the sons and daughters of big shots. As far as I know, all ad hoc offers are ‘short term’ in nature and RCSC doesn’t allow civil servants to go on long term scholarships without fulfilling proper procedures. These procedures are: One has to serve and complete a minimum of 2 years in the civil service, and the training proposed has to be in the HRD master plan submitted to the RCSC by the agency. In addition, the concern person has to have sound academic marks.  In this context, where is the possibility of getting scholarship just like that, unless you use your magic wind!

I will not write further, lest I fall in Khashitsawa’s category of spitting venom and hatred.

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Posted: 06 July 2007 08:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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like the several similar issues earlier this kind is indeed a serious matter which we all should be concerned of. if the scholarships and trainings abroad are reserved and proritised for the top officials with influence where does the deserving people go? no wonder we still have a lot to achieve in the development aspect since this type of corruption would only provide people who will make no difference at all in the development of the country other than personal development.
a leader should lead from the front and lead by example and this issue seriously encourages similar corruption at every levels and the concerned authorities should conduct a through investigation and bring the defaulter to task immediately. this would perhaps be an eye opener for all and a lesson that the law prevails over everyone irrespective of rank and posts.
this incident reminds me of the 3 girls i met abroad who were all daughters of high officials and have govrnment sponsered scholarship.
only heaven knows how long this kind of misconduct will go on.

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Posted: 06 July 2007 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Apwangdrugay,

First we are all trying to to analyse and participate in a discussion that involves on one hand the accusations against the Health Secretary and on the other hand whether such issues, if so important for some of us, should actually be tabled to the right organisations and not become a festering ground for hatred and disgust.

And definitely your language is disgusting! Many of us are in the forum not to vent out frustation and personal failures...but hoping to contribute in the discussions by looking at all the angles...and humna aspects must recieve closer attention if we need to understand and find remedial measures in refining our society!

But at no point did I indicate that while we must understand the father in the Health Secretary and his intentions to give his daughter the best start in life...that I undermine the rights and aspirations of many others who are more deserving.  So organise your thoughts and present them with some sense of direction and purpose!

Yes we must find tangible and long term solutions to the current stste of affairs...be it in stone and sand, in recruitment, in construction, in promotions or in awarding scholarships...but just by raising episodic personalised incidences that smell of individual
failures and desperations...we need to, if we are REALLY concerned about such issues to initiate a more credible level of debate and chart out strategic steps to generate mass action. Otherwise Bhutandaily is just a poor shadow of the erstwhile Bhutantimes.com...lost in the dirty world of hatred and despair!

OM MANI PADMA HUNG....

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Posted: 07 July 2007 12:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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""""""""""""""""Many of us are in the forum not to vent out frustation and personal failures...but hoping to contribute in the discussions by looking at all the angles...and humna aspects must recieve closer attention if we need to understand and find remedial measures in refining our society! “""""""""""""""""""Kashitsawa.

Kashitsawa, if you dont have any valid points to put forward, you may choose to keep quiet. You can save this site from falling into what you call the shadow of erstwhile bhutantimes.com. In fact people are wasting their time responding to your baseless replies. If you are so concerned about the “""""humna aspects must recieve closer attention""""" thing, why dont go straight to his house and tell him we are all talking bullshit!!! 

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Posted: 07 July 2007 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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I am the husband of the one of the husband of the nurses working here in JDWNRH and i think the MOH has circulated a printed copy from KOL regarding the issues raised by the public regarding nurses saying that nurses were rude and were found sleeping during their duty hours. The printed copy was circulated to all the departments of the JDWNRH and in the wards and was kept for the HMC meeting. Doesn’t the concerned people whoever it is see the issues related with their Secretary and Lynpos and other officers in the forums. Why don’t they print this copy and circulate it in the samer way and put it up for the HMC like they did for the nurses. Why bully only the nurses? or are all these people trying to make an impression in the eyes of their Secretary or Lynpos.Wheter Nurses sleep or be rude, they at least save the life of a patient. They don’t have time rest their ass and ponder over the computer and write bad about others.  I think it is a high time the MOH should do something about the discrimination and face the harsh reality rather than ordering something from above.

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Posted: 07 July 2007 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Dear friends,ofcourse I have no high connections and neither I am from health..but I feel why complain .. KARMA .. GOOD DEEDS .. what ultimately pays off .. may be these guys must have done something good in their past life for which they are being paid off now in some ways ..so no complains ..be good ..think good .. sure you guys will be paid off too in your next life if not now .. otherwise every life Bhutan times .. Bhutah Daily .. Kuensel on line is what you will be stuck with .. cheers all

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Posted: 07 July 2007 02:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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LMAO, Middle path. Nice joke.

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Posted: 07 July 2007 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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...hey guys.....why don’t we ask the Secretary himself.....here’s his email address....got it form http://www.health.gov.bt
...let’s see what he says.....

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Posted: 07 July 2007 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Lengo Eyes - 07 July 2007 03:03 PM

...hey guys.....why don’t we ask the Secretary himself.....here’s his email address....got it form http://www.health.gov.bt
...let’s see what he says.....


This discussion has drawn a lot of view points but I am not sure where we are headed. I did my own inquiries as well and though I cannot say that I believe in my source 100%, I was told that the Medicine Sponsorhip (not scholarship) was offered by a Dr. Wolfgang in Bonn to Dr.Gado, I am not sure how true this is but I was told that the sponsorship is a personal favor by Dr. Wolfgang to support her for 2 years of her studies there and then she was supposed to survive on her own. My doubt is whether the scholarship in discussion is from the second year onwards. Maybe guys in health or from Dr. Gado’s family may want to highlight.

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Posted: 08 July 2007 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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that is exactly what is going around with the high officials in Bhutan, they treat all this people from other country on the expenses of govt. and then finally what they do is fine something for themself. it is the way many of them do it. many of such cases are there where they get sponsership for one year from others and then the rest is some how explored from government funds.

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Posted: 08 July 2007 01:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Posted: 09 July 2007 05:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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i am sorry to hear that RCSC is sending people who are not qualified for such courses......WHERE THERE IS A CONNECTION THERE IS A WAY....my father also is a civil servent who holds a high post....i was told by my aunt that there are slots for the high post personals.....ill be honest i did not try for that nor would my dad listen to all these thing....so i landed up in India full scholorship from my parents.....so i feel that ACC should start attacking the SHARKS and WHALES rather than tormenting the SARDINES and TUNAS...its very sad to know that people are still using there authority to get things done...its really unfair for people like the author of this topic....moreover students who acquired more than 75% lands up in INDIA and other 3rd world countries...opportunity should be given to every bhutanese citizens with clerance...the fact that the father served the country does not meant that their children should get first preferance...and moreover the father should not exploit....

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Posted: 09 July 2007 11:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I think RCSC is not involved in this case. Undergrate scholarships are within MoE.

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Posted: 09 July 2007 12:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Dear Oness,

May the good lord have mercy on your pitiful soul. What frustations and what pathetic outlook on life!

If my posts are so baseless, why the hell are you so wwwwwwworked up by it. Just Learm to ignore it...or is what I am trying to analyse becoming so glaringly challenging in undermining your futile efforts of pissing venom against someone. While the sharks are having a field day...why are you so busy chasing a tadpole aanyway????? Or did the Health Secretary unwittingly kick the shit out of you or someone you care!

Issues like this I believe must be discussed with dissociation...from personal motives....and vengeance....!

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