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Posted: 20 July 2007 12:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 61 ]
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Yeshey01..I am tellin ya....go join Al qaeda...I think you really like attacking the innocent people…

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Posted: 20 July 2007 09:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 62 ]
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can any Bhutanese get that same opportunity to study at NB with the subsidised fee? i don’t think for all but some one at good level can get it isn’t it? we would appretiate if u let us know ur family back ground honestly or how did u manage to get it?

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Posted: 20 July 2007 03:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 63 ]
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TO ALL THOSE IN DOUBT

Yes, All Bhutanese who wish to study at the University of New Brunswick (UNB) are eligible for the subsidized rate. Your family background does not matter so long as you have the $$$. Also I just wanted to let you all know that most PRIVATELY funded Bhutanese students at UNB maintain couple of part-time jobs during the school year and also receive scholarships from the UNIVERSITY for their academic achievements. They do not receive any sort of funding from the Government of Bhutan.

Yeshey01 we are still waiting for your apology for dragging our names into this discussion and next time please THINK twice before you do something stupid like this.

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Posted: 20 July 2007 04:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 64 ]
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My goodness Kenchosum, what kind of a person are you? Even after explaining to you so much you still don’t get it do you? Any Bhutanese student who wishes to study in St. FX or UNB gets the subsidized rate regardless of their family. You do not even have to go apply through the RCSC or the CCO but just directly with the schools. Do you get it? Or do we have to go over it again, because with you, we have to go over everything not twice but over a million times. I hope all this information seeps into your thick head. And for you information my family background is none of your business! Is it not enough that you already accused them for corruption and also dragged our name in the midst of all this? If you are thinking that I got in because of my family than think twice. I got in because I worked hard for it, a concept that is lost to you To spare you from further embarrassing yourself I suggest that you take a look at the following link http://www.kuenselonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3212

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Posted: 21 July 2007 06:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 65 ]
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Yeshey01...Just as an FYI, all the pvt students here flip burgers during the week days and work in the Library during the weekends to earn our own pocket money. Otherwise we’ll will not survive, our folks only pay for our tutiton and rent. So before u speak up again with ur own scholarship theories think not twice but thrice. DAMNNN!!!! when will you EVER UNDERTSAND!!! TUBELIGHT!!!

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Posted: 22 July 2007 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 66 ]
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Dear yeshey1

I am sorry I am a bit late in putting my opinions across, the reason being that I do not have a reliable internet connection in my present institute.  I also felt that I was more of an observer since I do not fall into either of the two categories; namely Bhutanese students in Canada and grumpy frustrated Bhutanese in Bhutan. I am however reluctantly joining this forum because I am close friends of with many of the Bhutanese students in Canada. I have personally known them for many years and I know what they went through to get where they are, I have seen them bravely facing the hardships of living in a distant land, being away from home, loved ones and I have also shared the sheer happiness of succeeding and achieving their goals. Therefore, I find it rather repugnant when someone tries to discredit them for all their hard work and perseverance. 

I think, it was a serious blunder on your part to put out a list of Bhutanese students, with names, degrees and college names on a public forum. Such things are not done, in my view. And it was an even bigger blunder to falsely claim that they got their education through family ties and corruption! Making such a sweeping statement, without being able to substantiate through facts and figures, would only invite trouble for yourself.

Dradul Wangchuk I am naming him openly only because he is a close friend and because he has commented on this forum using his real name, unlike you, as far as I can remember, has been a class topper since he was in kindergarten. I urge you to get a copy of a kuensel paper that came out in 1995 (there was no internet back then, so I think you’ll have to dig up the kuensel archives…I am sure you will have ample time for this as you seem to like to dig up facts on other people…you had the time to look up “deki phunstho” on google…that says a lot) but if you do find the copy you can read about how a young Dradul Wangchuk topped the whole of Bhutan in the class 6 common exams, the journalist writes about how “he needs help from his mother in wearing his gho every morning” and “how he is a keen member of the Jigme Dorji Wangchuck Library”. Dradul has topped every class he was in, and was even a topper in UNB computer science program.

With your shocking comments you are saying that people (like Dradul) who have worked so hard and achieved so much in their life, did so not by merit but by family connection and a corrupt government. Are you stating that Dradul topped his class PP exams and topped his country in the common exams because of family connections? I highly doubt any family would have that much of an influence over our education system.

From my personal experience, as a student in the USA for four years, I know exactly what Bhutanese students studying in Canada go through. I had many odd jobs over my 4 years in college, including washing everyone’s dirty dishes and taking the 6 AM shift as the telephone receptionist, to have enough pocket money to live there. When your family earns in Rupees it’s very hard to pay college fees in Dollars. My parents worked their hearts out to pay for my education, and I am extremely grateful to them…..and I know for a fact that ….that was the same case with many of the Bhutanese students in Canada. When someone goes through hardships like that, they really tend to appreciate what they have achieved. It saddens me to know, that rather than, trying to emulate the good examples set by our illustrious students, and looking up to such students as role models for our future generation ....you choose to paint them in such wretched hue.

It also extremely hurts when a misinformed individual goes to a public forum and claims that they did not work hard, they family did not suffer and what they have done there is only because of family connections. I feel such malicious and spurious comments are absolutely, uncalled for. It hurts a lot yeshey1, please put yourself in their shoes and think about it.I think your comments not only hurt the private funded students in Canada but also those who are truly on government scholarships. There are some students in Canada who are from influential families but who were nominated by the RCSC. But most of the recipients are from very humble families, and some are even from far flung corners of Bhutan who never studied in Thimphu. These students worked hard to get the RCSC aid, but now you go on a public forum and say that they all got it through corruption. Imagine how they must feel.

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Posted: 22 July 2007 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 67 ]
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I am not too familiar with the education system, but from my limited knowledge ,I do know that Bhutanese are only charged in-state or province fees while studying in Trent, St. Francis and the University of New Brunswick. That is according to the documents singed (signed) between our Education Ministry and their Canadian counterparts. While other international students pay the whole fee. So you say that Lyonpo Zimba’s daughter Sonam studied there..and they she got in because of Lyonpo’s connection. Which is again totally and dangerously false! Sonam applied there on her own, and she got accepted there because of her own merit and her own hard work…..lucky for her, her family was in a situation to pay for the college. So she went! Just because someone goes to Canada to study, it does not mean that one will have to have a special connection to Ms.Nancy Strickland, Coordinator of Canadian Assistance to Bhutan..

As you probably know many Bhutanese have graduated from Universities in Canada recently, and its so nice to see people succeed in life. There are several Bhutanese who are now going to be working in Canada. I remind you that they are private students; their fees were paid for by their families. Its beautiful because it’s a modern day success story, where a student travels far from home to a foreign land…goes through immense hardship and gets a job there, which helps him support his family in Bhutan. Its just so good to hear and I just feel so happy for the families. Its also good for our country, as those Bhutanese workers in Canada will be sending money back to Bhutan. Do you have any idea of how much money non resident Indians send back to India?

I presume you that you are a Buddhist. As a Buddhist you are to rejoice in the success of others, that is what the teachings of the Buddha says. If you do so, you will have even more merit! So I urge you to let go of these feelings…maybe go outside and scream out your frustrations….maybe go hug a tree! Once you feel better, just rejoice! It will help a lot.

As the saying goes “good things happen to good people”. Being a student of Buddhism, my teachers always stress on non-dualism as there are no bad and good, black and white in Buddhism, so I would say I would change that saying to “good things happen to people who work”. I think that is the case here. Yeshey, in Buddhist terminology, as you must know refers to wisdom. I pray that you have the wisdom to know right from wrong.

Yours Sincerely

Pawo Choyning Dorji

Sarah Institute of Buddhist Dialectics

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Posted: 22 July 2007 05:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 68 ]
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Hey Choyning, don’t drag all the other students names on the list . Everybody know that majority of students are on scholarship on merit basis. OK OK some of you rich kids are funded by your parents. What is the big deal about washing dishes and having two jobs while going to University. All the students in the west do that.

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Posted: 22 July 2007 07:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 69 ]
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Yeshey,
First of all if I remember correctly you were the one who dragged our names into this forum and not Chonying. Second of all you have the audacity to ask “Whats the big deal about washing dishes and having two jobs while going to University?” Do you even realize how hard it is to juggle school and work at the same time? You probably have this stereotypical image of University in North America being all fun and no work. I would encourage you not to make judgements based on what you see on TV today. Life is not all that glorified as you have perceived it. It really seems like you are in agony about the way society and system works in Bhutan. I just wanted to advice you that you can’t really do much by sitting infront of the computer and writting rubbish. If you really want to see change then I suggest you get involved instead of wasting your time and energy on this useless forum. Also its really disheartening to know that even after all this effort in trying to make you understand you simply refuse to admit your fault and apologize. I hope you will realize that you have hurt many students here who are far away from home and the last thing they needed is someone to bring up their name into this forum in a lackadaisical manner.

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Posted: 23 July 2007 01:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 70 ]
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hello bro and sis in canada, here is my sincere request. could you please tell us how much it cost to study in canada, including fooding lodging fees everything? If I find it reasonable i would like to send my brother to study there. i know in europe if u can manage €4oo a month that is enough..thank you!

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Posted: 23 July 2007 02:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 71 ]
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hello oness...I think CCO is the best place to go. They have up to date information on everything and one reason why they have a office in Bhutan is for ppl like you, who needs more info. So I suggest u either call or visit their office. Thats what I did before I came here. smile
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Posted: 23 July 2007 04:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 72 ]
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Hey Oness, As Silverman said if you want a proper outline, you should probably visit the CCO. Otherwise here is a very rough estimate. Tution is the biggest bluk and it cost about $ 6,000 to $ 7,000, since Bhutanese students are exempt from the international fee, it helps a lot. We pay about $ 400/month for 8 months for rent but this can range anywhere from 3$00-$700. Food is not added in this calculation, neither is travel or other expenditure. It is definitely cheaper to study in Canada compared to Europe, not only tution but living expenditure as well. If you have any question please ask, if you go to the CCO they also help you get in touch with Bhutanese students studying in Canada. I hope this is of some help to you.

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Posted: 23 July 2007 05:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 73 ]
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hi
can any body let me know how much (fees) it cost for an engineering course cost in canada

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Posted: 23 July 2007 05:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 74 ]
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kenchosum...go to CCO office or heres the link for UNB http://www.unb.ca/services/financialservices/students/fees/undergrad_fees_fred.htm
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